One such tool I already adjusted consultations on repair of a bass shteg of a piano of
, there destruction of a shteg only of
began. We agreed with the client that he will trace a system in
basses (so far he says that nothing departured, and it plays days
without a break).
The second case it is already necessary to treat. Or it to put 3 - 4 couplers from bolts
of dametry 3 mm, or it the epokisidka, or both is necessary? Or I
should go to a workshop of muses. and to ask schools new shteg? What would you advise
Is, of course, still the exotic option to be run on garbage cans, our
tools often throw out, but it is always a stress, I cannot coolly treat this
, there are a wish to beat somebody :)
I Will be grateful for any idea.
Yours faithfully, Natalya Shvechkova,
of t. 8 - 919 - 39 - 49 - 036
Photos in an attachment.
On February 5, 2012, 17:44
Dear Natalya, kind time of day. What I will advise you, of course, is not panacea for all concrete cases of repair of a shteg, however I would arrive as follows:
1 Previously release slightly all bass strings, I on tone do lower. It is necessary to increase a crack. Then by means of the liquid PVA moved with one quarter of the sawdust of firm grades of a tree crushed to torments of a figurative state (karagach, an oak, a maple) to spill all available cracks of the destroyed shteg. I usually try to contrive by means of the syringe. Work jeweler and demanding a lot of time, however as to me seems unique and correct. Spill so that glue began to follow on a resonant sound board. When glue cannot be spilled I push it by means of long, but in too time of very thin Gipsy needle. Then accurately I strew with sawdust over glue.
2 If to you is possible to pull together with a clamp (sponges from above and from below) near a pig-iron frame, in the right part of a shteg, then it will be even better.
3 Usually after a spill of glue and fixing of a clamp, I within an hour with an interval on 5 - 10 minutes dry on the weakest mode by means of the hair dryer. Hair dryer distance from a shteg of 5 - 7 cm
4 When be convinced that glue began to dry up remove it from strings and pins if to turn out. Next day adjust
5 fearlessly in the necessary tone. On the sent photos destruction is considerable, however I hope that having used “mine the recipe“, at you everything has to turn out. Good luck.
If is possible send pictures as did or video from mob. phone. Yours faithfully, Maxim
of Coupler P. S by means of bolts or self-tapping screws, I would not advise to do.
On April 12, 2012, 11:33
Thanks for your councils! Very much were useful! In prilozheniifotootchyot.
Constantly I use your technique of strengthening a virbelbanka.
Such supervision: the corrugated cardboard helps not with all cases.
At very strong wear of a nest (old “Belarus“, “Urala“ of etc.) very well the cardboard works with
office, more fine.
If you suddenly need my help, too address!
At my place two “mechanics“ and sets of keys from “Ural“ and the German of “Ladner“ are stored.
There`s nothing to be done, I quite often meet on garbage cans of the potential patients of :(
there are steel strings and a lot of virbely from “Elegy“.
Is also full keyboard from from a grand piano “Red October“ assembled. I Will send
if something is required to you.
Yours faithfully, Natalya Shvechkova, Yekaterinburg
of t. 8 - 919 - 39 - 49 - 036
Report on repair of a shteg Maxim`s
answer on April 12, 2012, 15:10
Dear Natalya, is inexpressibly glad to your letter! What you made, without excess modesty, on 5+, and even is more. The matter is that when I advised, did not allow a possibility of full dismantle. In mine to practice there was only one similar case, an ancient German piano, do not remember the name. There shteg too as on your photos collapsed practically at all length on the top pins. I then was still young and, practical experience was not absolutely, however the owner, the old grandfather - the pensioner, having understood a problem, asked me to weaken gradually all strings. To our happiness, after some easing, in literal sense fell out and, having propped up a log the weakened strings, pulled out it outside. Then I filled in the dropped-out pins and for days put shteg in a usual metalwork vice between two wooden levels. I used then PVA without sawdust, just did not know. Next day smeared the place plane on a resonant sound board and respectively applied glue on a shteg. It was difficult to pull out the log which wedged strings. On 2 - 3 attempt we managed it. I was afraid that glue will begin to grab quickly and, we will not manage to distribute strings on their pins, however it turned out. Operation took no more than 15 minutes. The truth shteg slightly rose not in “the old place“ - below and a few to the left. When I began to pull strings, situation was improved. The grandfather the old mechanic ordered to pull strings above the standard that I also made. It turned out, of course it is rough, but it is reliable. The piano “immigrirvat“ to Russia now and as it plays now, I cannot tell. In half a year after repair I came, the sound was good and very loud. I hope, as now does not cause complaints.
, as for your “Elegy“, was a little not lucky you when began full dismantle of strings. But from where know that glue at factory, was not dropped at all. On the other hand, having dismantled completely shteg, there was opportunity with higher quality to make out all destructions and that the most important to fill in with glue with sawdust a crack and to clamp it with the maximum accuracy. I consider by a find metal plates from a chair, self-tapping screws and pins from under keys - it is gallant! I consider, work is done at the highly professional level. The final photo eloquently speaks about it. Here and “traditional medicine“ has to work - “Came - saw - won!“ Slava Ekaterinburgu and to his people! Special thank you Natalya for the help which you offer in the form of details. At us in Uralsk situation is not better at all and good pianos on a dump, alas not a rarity. However thanks.
U me to you a request whether I can publish, the sent material “Repair of a Shteg“ on the website. If yes, that like to specify your surname. And also your address. To me visitors from your region go to the website and, I think that they will want to cooperate. I will not take offense if it is impossible to publish for any reason. build
concerning fixing by means of a corrugated cardboard, many thanks. Lately, there are a lot of people from around the world, even from Thailand write letters of gratitude. I am very flattered with this fact, however the Moscow bonzes from the Forum “Classics“ on all pages water my name, just do not abuse a mat. Only God will judge them. That, as for use of a cardboard as you write, instead of corrugations - yes! In certain cases, when a stopper the fact that it is strongly worn-out it can be told, in general not, I even use 5 mm a thick woolen cloth. I do not know by what key you polztsya, repair or T - bar? So, here at the time of twisting I precisely know how to arrive, feeling pressure between a tree and caustic. The technology to impropriety is simple and as I understood, works now and, in your city. When you twist, the cardboard strip practically collapses in dust, filling microcracks in a board, at the same time also glue wood is dissolved and fills in cracks. Only it is necessary to do it very slowly. Here if we tell 2 tens kolok to change, then yes unscrew splittings the puncher. But to twist I advise manually in 3 - 4 approaches on splittings for 3 - 5 minutes on rest. Then there will be a system! Natalya I would like to know opinion of ekterinburgsky masters even if also critical. If it is possible describe process as it is done by you and what result whether is not present in a consequence of complaints. For promoting of a method let someone, registered on Yu - a tuba will drop a line in the comment to video. youtube. com/watch? v=CGk3dS6dKow &feature=channel
Sincerely yours, maxim_tuner
the Answer from Natalya
Couple of days ago wrote to you mega - the vast letter, but it was lost somewhere in a subsoil whether Rambler, whether the computer - did not understand. I will try to reproduce it anew.
Concerning the publication of my comments - please, expose where want. It is not a secret, all this infa at all I give out in the form of lecture by everyone from among the customers :) Even I try to something, he - he, to teach.
Concerning comments under your video in the youtube - I cannot but be passed with sarcasm. One figure, on everything to see, the well-cared boyar from the capitals, is so lazy applauded to “masters from the remote place“ for the sharpness which developed on a full absence of fish without any spare parts. Having patted all of us patronizing shoulder, he did not refuse to itself pleasure to give to us thoughtful advice about “footcloths“ from a nazhdachka and something there about an epoksidka. From everything with amazement read, I drew a conclusion that in its case, in lack of a notorious absence of fish, such useful quality as sharpness, and also desire to study materiel, will atrophy, up to a total disappearance. And therefore - long live an absence of fish, the progress engine!
... However, it is not lonely. I observed different masterpieces, one of which was even a piece of a tin from Kokakola banks!
About a thick thick woolen cloth instead of a wooden insert - it is curious. But I all - tried to make an insert of a tree.
And about glue wood of a corrugated cardboard - too it is somehow new. And what - it is there? It is really dissolved from heating?
Just returned from “Penza“ 60 - x years of release. The virbelbanka carried out full repeated control and repair. It is still discouraged that all my July 2kh day work did not remain at all! The piano was untuned in stuff! And then still it turned out that virbel do not keep in nests. But in the summer it was not! And this piano already the third at me it. As the physicist, I sin all - on sharp change of an indicator of humidity indoors from - for batteries which fry as though in a sauna. And subsequent degradation virbelbanka. However, I have batteries too - a thermonuclear reaction and the sistemnik blows a cooler in the field of basses at my “German“, but mine - that for some reason keeps... It was again taken couple of days, fixed by your method about 25 - 30 nests - here so everything was started by :(
at the same time used only a cardboard from boxes with tea. Holds perfectly! Now no gang of second-graders to this pensioner is terrible.
As means for landing of strings on virbel it was convenient to use the screw-driver of average caliber from propily 2ő2 mm in the middle, for capture of a string. I think to make the second same.
Concerning masters from Ekat. Personally I communicated only with dear Yury Vladimirovich Ivanov, the adjuster from muses. Tchaikovsky`s schools when came to it to a workshop behind strings. He is very severe concerning a method of “footcloths“ and insists on putting the bigger diameter virbelya and “its sledge hammer, a sledge hammer“. Says what was so done at Ural factory when it worked many years ago there. About opinions of the others I am not aware, we somehow do not exchange them, all have the mad life in this city.
My position - combined. At return virbelya in a nest together with a footcloth, I 3 - 4 times knock a kuvaldochka that virbel it was leveled in a nest and came there, wrapped up by a footcloth. Then the power part begins. We twist.
Separate to you respect for a method of pulling of a string on one round from one virbelya on next. Very often, when it becomes clear that prokanat also without footcloth, I just shift virbel and strings from familiar spots, and it really works!