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Ivan Datsenko is a businessman, or the leader Irokezov?

Ivan Datsenko, leader Irokezov, Kanavake

Dear sirs!


On December 31, 2014 on one of the Kiev TV channels there took place transfer about destiny of our fellow countryman, Hero of the Soviet Union - Ivan Datsenk, and then read your article 3 - x summer to prescription and decided to write. about 10 Years ago I already heard

about it and too was inspired by its contents, but now I looked at it Bol soberly and I see that most of people indulge in this history in wishful thinking.

I cannot understand how there are so much years and such number of people can be mistaken, the first look in the obvious facts.

In the beginning imagine that you with a family went to Ukraine to Zaporizhia and visited the island Hortitsa.

Took a walk in the ethnographic museum, met elegantly dressed characters of the Cossack era, talked even to the actor dressed in Getman`s clothes, drank the real mead, participated in competitions Kozakov, waved shably

A then arrived home and began to tell all who believe in miracles that they were in the real Cossack kurin and learned all aspects of life of the Cossack army. And the most important - met Getman Ivan Sirk who is still living (it was harakternyky )

Something similar happened and in the history to Ivan Datsenko.

Thanks to collected materials I can claim with full responsibility that Ivan Datsenko was not a leader of the tribe Irokezov. It is impossible for

, from the point of view of tenor of life of tribes Irokezov. Just none of the Soviet people in Soviet period could even imagine

that having put on in a suit of the leader of the tribe of the Mohawk it is possible to earn money.

And the main thing - a social order of tribes Irokezov did not allow to become the leader of the tribe of the stranger under no circumstances.

Indians of the so-called six tribes (Seneca, a kayyuga, an onondaga, Oneida, mokhok and since 1750 - a tuskaror) which united in the so-called Union of Six Tribes and received the general name mohawks lived in classical - MATRIARCHY.

Yes, still all are surprised how at such bandits as mohawks, matriarchy could prosper. But everything is very simple: just because they were professional bandits, they gave for consideration to women all but war!

Why elders - women governed? Because elders - men in the tribe just were not, they did not live up to an old age, they perished: mohawks constantly were at war: and to the real freezed fighter who is held in respect to live up to an old age it was simply unreal.

Why the woman owned the earth and property?

Well, agriculture (as one of signs of a settled way of life) - quieter, female the phenomenon, as opposed to hunting and a nomadic way of life. Women of the Union of Tribes and collecting were engaged, and men " worked at the earth, and; specialized on hunting and war, completely realizing the gender desires. Backs were left for management to women just to release as much as possible hands and the heads for battles.

of the Man did not own property for quite explainable reasons: the ascetic - to the soldier does not need excess things especially as providing the soldier was a tribe duty. Shmotochnichestvo and the consumer relation to life always were (and remain) the privilege of the woman. The soldier protected the tribe, brought home production, trophies and did children. Nothing is reminded by such scheme?

So, I generalize: women were responsible for the house, a family, economy, food: actually in full accordance with the concept of patriarchal society the world of the woman - the house, the house of the man - the world .

I irokezsky young ladies were engaged internal management on all fronts to provide to the men an opportunity most fully to be given to favourite business.

in case of mohawks favourite business was the war which is completely provided with the back that suited all parties.

A, absolutely forgot: to the young ladies admiring mohawks, zhivopisuyushchy matriarchy as a certain idyllic picture of general love and a consent, it is worth remembering that Indians of League have Irokezov more, than at other tribes, human sacrifices, sophisticated tortures of prisoners and a cannibalism were widespread. And in general, historians claim that in matriarchal societies the cannibalism almost everywhere prospered, in particular, were eaten both old men and small children.

Consolatory in this history after all is the fact that:

Ivan Datsenko really real Hero of the Soviet Union.

Was really brought down near Lviv in 1944.

And probably (it is possible to trust Esambayev`s words) it appeared in Canada in the settlement of Kanavaka (Kahnawake). Which really exists on the card 15 min. driving from Montreal and in which really there is a reservation of tribes Irokezov. they called Sami`s

of People of the Long House as members of the tribe lived not in separate wigwams, and in one big house like a barrack.

Mohawks were engaged in hunting and agriculture, but the main hobby and a factor of professional employment men had a WAR.

People of the Long House were famous for the aggression and how much in vain rumpled all neighboring tribes - Mohicans, delavar, algonkin, guron, Montana, Miami, Ottawa, illinoys, etc. People from the Union of Tribes were always considered as

the most aggressive and ruthless of Indians, and given them by enemies - algonkinam the nickname mohawks (vipers) as we know from Cooper, became nominal designation of Indian eagerness to fight, cruelty and ferocity.

And so, at these furious and freezed soldiers women played the predominating role, owned the earth and were engaged in distribution of food!

Was present also a matrilineynost - on the female line passed a name and the property right. Women in general dominated in the village and besides were responsible for the spiritual and general management of the tribe.

I in spite of the fact that men were leaders (higher authority) of tribes and all Union, but chose them besides elders - women, and having the right them and to displace if something happens. And men were executive power were engaged in hunting and, so to speak, foreign policy .

Let`s analyse the minor facts and together we will think over what managed to be established.

In 1936, a certain John Makkomber (English John McComber) began the business with the fact that created Kanaveyskoye to an indianska the village - the museum (English Kahnawake`s Old Indian Village & Museum, till certain time had the name English Chief Poking Fire Indian Museum, and also English Totem Pole Indian Village in Kahnawake). It is accurately traced on we age to photos which are on Canadian the website and from which it is visible that advertizing schita before an entrance to the museum already then (till 1940 already were and on them it was written - Visit the only and unique village Irokezov! - Competitions of Indians etc.

Is usual ethnographic (as now it is fashionable to call) the museum under the open sky located in the place, very successful from the point of view of business. (between the city of Quebec and Niagara Falls) and Irokezov serving till 1990 by the place for acquaintance of tourists with culture of tribes. the territory the occupying space earth about a hectare protected with a paling on which was

It took place: main Long house museum 3045 meters in size.

In the real tribes some of them reached the huge sizes, consisted of several tens houses and totaled one and a half - two thousand inhabitants. The big group of relatives lived in each house. The house had the form of the extended rectangle sheathed by elm pieces of bark; from end faces the entrance and an exit were at home. The central part of the house remained the public place. There the centers settled down, the smoke left through openings in a roof. From two parties from the central pass were rooms for separate families. When there was a new family, to the house attached the additional room owing to what houses of mohawks were extended. Their Europeans and called - long houses (long house).

Of course John Makkomber (English John McComber), and then also our hero who under the thought-up name - " was the most izvestny character in this settlement at the beginning of; The Penetrating " fire; (English Chief Poking Fire), the museum to the death headed (date is not determined yet).

But Irokezov dressed in a suit of the leader of the tribe the man to me kzhtsya cannot be considered as that only because we so like his suit???.

I managed to popobshchatsya through Facebook (on favors) with Kakhnavake`s inhabitants and one of them told that this museum as does not work 25 years but the place where it settled down the daughter and the son, perhaps our hero owns.

of Coordinate of the son in Facebook - John N McComber, is engaged in similar business.

Ya wrote it but he did not answer me yet.

Also certain - Jack NATHANSON which was photographed in 1962 together with our hero answered me. (a photo according to the reference)

of Facebook. com/allxlib/posts/405503469612804?comment_id=407557192740765 &offset=0 &total_comments=1

to me, worked well communicated on Facebook to this person and he told me too that, the fancy-dress leader was not literally a leader if I correctly translated teks of course.

Here the English version of his answer - He was not actually the chief of the Mohawk tribe. He owned the museum and just called himself Chief Poking Fire.

Also was is found in the Internet network texts of commercial advertisements of that time on work of the museum.

Here one of them in the newspaper

of that time the Commercial obyavleniye

the Website - wordpress. com/tag/chief - poking - fire /

Tombola at Caughnawaga Continues During July

Another colorful annual Indian tombola in aid of St. Francis Xavier Mission is being held this year at Caughnawaga every weekend during the month of July.

Indian handicrafts, baskets, beadwork and souvenirs are among the displays, and are th prizes in various contests udring the evening.

Chief Poking Fire and his Mohawk braves in full regalia are presenting a complete program of traditional dances and folklore nightly during bazaar month. Indian - style booths serve refreshments.

Visitors are invited to participate in amateur shows.

Source: The Canadian Register, Jul 3, 1948

In a word the commercial project gained steam and developed. we watch

A now at what occurs in to personnel policy family business.

In the article The Gone hero Vladimir Semenov (VLADIMIR SEMENOV

The Gone hero

of ru/archive/2010/n4/1004 - 18. the PDF

writes that it through the friends contacted the former member of the Canadian Senate who told it words of the sister. That told that the village is valid in post-war time in Kanaveyskoye to an indianska - the museum was really employed by the tourism manager certain non Indian who organized work of the museum, provedit dancing shows etc. Later he married the daughter of the owner of business of John Makkomber`s daughter by a certain Luise (Louise McComber) and after death of the father (in 1979) possession of the museum passed to the daughter who was already a wife of our hero by then - Ivan Datsenk.

at them gave birth Later children, two of whom still live there.

Should tell that all participants of the project were fancy-dress heroes, in combination guides and actors that had to is positive to influence visitors and to create at them illusion of the real life of the irokezky settlement.

Posts about Chief Poking Fire on A Canadian Family

acanadianfamily. wordpress. com

In the house which was in this museum nakhodils household items of tribes various clothes, ware, and informative lectures were also given.

in the territory of the museum was the Grotto in which there was a holy site of Ekaterina (Kateri) Tekakvita (English Kateri Tekakwitha; 1656, Orisvill, the state New - York - on April 17, 1680, Kakhnavake, Quebec, Canada) - Saint Rimsko - Catholic Church, the daughter of the leader of mokhavk.

passed worship rituals In the Grotto the Saint.

Also on all territories stood totemic columns simvolizovashy belief that any favourites the people an animal or other inanimate object possess protection over the tribe, a sort or a family.

Totemic animals were surrounded with a cult of worship and any taboo. There were many cults: trade, agricultural, personal patrimonial and patronizing.

was available For each sort the totem and the animal - the patron. They were represented in the form of totemic columns which were decorated with images of the cut-out figures of animals or people. All of them were brightly painted, and process of cutting was made with observance of strict rules.

took the Enormous place in work of the museum preparation and carrying out various competitions of Indians, dancing shows, production of souvenir products, printing of various post cards, embroidery by beads etc. of

the Essence of this commercial project p. 302 - 305 of the book

Art and Commodity in Colonial and Postcolonial Worlds

Authors is described:

of Ruth Bliss Phillips, Christopher Burghard Steiner

University of California Press,

of 1 January. 1999 - All pages: 424

Summing up the results, I want to tell that it was pure business the project in which our hero and his family earned to themselves a living and only from such position it is necessary to consider all other stories and information in this case.

yours faithfully Alexander Kropelnitsky

Kiev, Ukraine